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		<title>Why Charles Arthur Should Read Things Before Slagging Them Off</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yesterday, my friend Shane Richmond sent me a draft of a blog post to comment on as he does from time to time. I thought it was excellent. Later, he published it on his Telegraph blog. It&#8217;s about how David Simon, creator of The Wire is an &#8216;amateur&#8217; TV producer, in the sense that he [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yesterday, my friend <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/shane_richmond">Shane Richmond</a> sent me a draft of a blog post to comment on as he does from time to time. I thought it was excellent. Later, <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/shane_richmond/blog/2009/05/07/if_amateurs_like_david_simon_can_make_the_wire_why_cant_they_do_journalism">he published it on his Telegraph blog</a>. It&#8217;s about how David Simon, creator of <em>The Wire</em> is an &#8216;amateur&#8217; TV producer, in the sense that he didn&#8217;t train or do formal study to be one, and how he should be more willing to accept amateur journalism as a result. Simon writes about his early, somewhat fumbling, TV experiences on <em>Homicide: Life on the Street</em> at some length in a note in the UK edition of his brilliant book Homicide (<a href="http://www.26books.com/?p=310">which I reviewed on 26 Books last year</a>). </p>
<p>Shane&#8217;s post got tweeted around on Twitter quite a bit and then, a few hours late to the party, super-troll Charles Arthur &#8211; technology editor at the <em>Guardian</em> &#8211; chipped in with what seemed to be a total misreading of Shane&#8217;s post. </p>
<p>Now, of course, David Simon is, in the strictest sense, a <em>professional</em> TV producer, which is to say that he gets paid to do it. But in another sense, he is indeed an &#8216;amateur&#8217;. Shane spells out what he means by using that word about half-way through his post:</p>
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But what puzzles me is Simon&#8217;s antipathy to the notion of amateur journalists. After all, he&#8217;s an amateur television producer. He wasn&#8217;t trained in the medium, didn&#8217;t work his way up from being a tea boy. Nor did his co-writer and co-producer Ed Burns. Burns was a policeman and teacher. Together they used their experience to craft a television show which explored the worlds in which they had worked. Their backgrounds were far more important than their training in the medium.
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<p>Here&#8217;s the timeline as far as I can reconstruct it (Twitter post times are adjusted for BST &#8211; the API reports them at GMT + 0, while BST is GMT + 1).</p>
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<li>12:51: Shane <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/shane_richmond/blog/2009/05/07/if_amateurs_like_david_simon_can_make_the_wire_why_cant_they_do_journalism">publishes the post</a></li>
<li>21:21: Charles responds to someone retweeting it: &#8220;if @shanerichmond doesn&#8217;t know that David Simon has done utterly amazing journalism in his books, it&#8217;s his loss, not Simon&#8217;s.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://twitter.com/charlesarthur/status/1730595618">original tweet</a>.</li>
<li>21:23 Shane replies: &#8220;@charlesarthur You haven&#8217;t read the post have you? &#8211; <a href="http://twitter.com/shanerichmond/status/1730614137">original tweet</a>.</li>
<li>22:19 Tim Duckett says : &#8220;@shanerichmond @charlesarthur You two aren&#8217;t at it again are you? Do we have to send you both up to bed early?&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://twitter.com/timd/status/1731096692">original tweet</a></li>
<li>22:21 Astonishingly, Charles reveals that he <em>hasn&#8217;t actually read Shane&#8217;s post</em> despite the fact that the original tweet he responded to contained a link to it. &#8211;  &#8220;@shanerichmond send me a url, I&#8217;ll read it.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://twitter.com/charlesarthur/status/1731113942">original tweet</a>.</li>
<li>22:38 Charles finally gets around to reading the post he&#8217;s been slagging off, and tweets the first part of his response: &#8220;Calling David Simon an &#8220;amateur&#8221; producer shows an astonishing ignorance of his earlier TV work, eg. Homicide; The Corner&#8230;.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://twitter.com/charlesarthur/status/1731262808">original tweet</a>.</li>
<li>22:39 Quickly followed by the second part: &#8220;&#8230;and on other points, the arguments aren&#8217;t complete. Is free is the best model, why don&#8217;t free papers suck up all adverts from paid ones?&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://twitter.com/charlesarthur/status/1731272200">original tweet</a>.</li>
<li>Friday, 11:00 Charles responds to MJDodd (note that here, Charles has silently withdrawn his original accusation that Shane said David Simon was an amateur <em>journalist</em>, which was before he&#8217;d read Shane&#8217;s post): &#8220;@MJDodd yes, calling David Simon on The Wire an &#8220;amateur producer&#8221; indicates a quite astonishing level of lack of research.&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://twitter.com/charlesarthur/status/1736236406">original tweet</a>.</li>
<p>Before I get into this further, I have some interests to declare. A couple of weeks ago, I got so annoyed at the way Charles was gloating over the <em>Telegraph</em>&#8217;s embarrassment over their Twitterfall experiment that I <a href="http://twitter.com/higgis/statuses/1577128965">tweeted the following</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m astonished at the arrogance, hubris, and all-round cuntishness of Guardian journalists. @charlesarthur, for instance.</p></blockquote>
<p>That tweet was picked up by Private Eye and erroneously attributed to the Telegraph&#8217;s Assistant Editor, <a href="http://twitter.com/justin_williams">Justin Williams</a>. If you want a full run-down of the argument between Shane and Charles, have a look at Malcom Coles&#8217; post <a href="http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/shane-richmond-charles-arthur-twackdown/">That Shane Richmond / Charles Arthur Twackdown in full&#8230;</a></p>
<p>Another interest to declare. The <em>Telegraph</em> was a client of the web agency I used to work for; we built their blogging platform for them. Later I did some contracting for them. On the other hand, I loathe the Telegraph&#8217;s politics and am a regular <em>Guardian</em> reader.</p>
<p>And one final interest. I&#8217;m close friends with Shane. I first met him in January 2006. He wasted no time in telling me that <em>The Wire</em> was the best show on TV and got me hooked on it there and then. Since then we have watched episodes of <em>The Wire</em> together, listened to podcasts about it in the car and talked about it almost every time we see each other. He&#8217;s also urged me to watch Simon&#8217;s earlier series for HBO, <em>The Corner</em> (I haven&#8217;t done so yet). We also watched several episodes of <em>Homicide: Life on the Street</em> together, finding it very disappointing and only a pale shadow of his later work, although to be fair, Simon didn&#8217;t have any real say in how the show was made. So, while I&#8217;m naturally sympathetic to Shane&#8217;s argument because he&#8217;s my friend, I also know how deeply he has thought about <em>The Wire</em>. Anyone who has read his blog knows how long he&#8217;s been making the opposite case to David Simon on newspapers &#8211; I&#8217;m not going to go into that side of his argument here.</p>
<p>If you want more than my word for how much research Shane has done into <em>The Wire</em> and David Simon&#8217;s career, then let me point you in the direction of a few of his posts and articles. </p>
<p>First of all is <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/05/09/nosplit/bvtvwire09.xml">this article from the Telegraph of 22nd May 2007</a> (which, according to <a href="http://www.charlesarthur.com/blog/?p=988">this post</a> is almost a year before Charles even started watching the show). Shane&#8217;s article contains one of my favourite quotes about The Wire:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are two kinds of people in the world: those who love <em>The Wire</em> and those who haven&#8217;t seen it. Yet.</p></blockquote>
<p>Then there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.26books.com/?p=80">his review of Raphael Alvarez&#8217;s <em>The Wire, Truth be Told</em></a> over on <a href="http://www.26books.com">26 Books</a> from June 2007. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s also worth checking out <a href="http://www.shanerichmond.net/?p=303">Shane&#8217;s post on David Simon&#8217;s the &#8216;bible&#8217; for the first season of <em>The Wire</em></a>.</p>
<p>I think that takes care of Charles&#8217;s claim that Shane&#8217;s research is faulty.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s look at Charles&#8217;s objection to Shane&#8217;s use of the word &#8216;amateur&#8217;. As Shane spells out in the paragraph I quoted above, and the fact that he placed the word &#8216;amateur&#8217; in quotes in the title of his post, he&#8217;s not using the word <em>literally</em>. He understands that Simon gets paid for his work. He understands and acknowledges that he is supremely good at being a TV producer. He says in his Telegraph article that <em>The Wire</em> is the best show ever on TV, so we can assume that he thinks he&#8217;s better than all of the professional &#8211; i.e. career &#8211; TV producers out there.</p>
<p>Clearly, Shane uses the word &#8216;amateur&#8217; in its original French sense. As Wikipedia puts it: </p>
<blockquote><p>Translated from its French origin to the English &#8220;lover of&#8221;, the term &#8220;amateur&#8221; reflects a voluntary motivation to work as a result of personal passion for a particular activity. Among the thousands of amateurs who have made important contributions to science and technology are Thomas Edison, Charles Darwin, and Gregor Mendel.</p></blockquote>
<p>Edison, Darwin and Mendel are exalted company indeed. Describing someone as an amateur in the sense that Shane does is the exact opposite of an insult. It&#8217;s the highest compliment you can pay. Simon makes shows like <em>The Wire</em> because of his <em>passion</em>. Getting paid is a bonus.</p>
<p>Charles has form in confusing the meanings of words in the heat of an argument. During the <a href="http://www.malcolmcoles.co.uk/blog/shane-richmond-charles-arthur-twackdown/">Twackdown</a>, he seemed unable to accept that he&#8217;d misused the word &#8220;eavesdrop&#8221;. Characteristic of the troll, he <a href="http://twitter.com/charlesarthur/statuses/1579087898">aggressively suggests</a> that Shane doesn&#8217;t understand the meaning of the word &#8211; &#8220;Buy a bigger dictionary&#8221; &#8211; before later making the lame excuse that he was a bit tired in a comment on the Twackdown post.</p>
<p>When David Simon says that <em>The Wire</em> would be &#8220;something that Euripides might recgonise&#8221; you can trust that he&#8217;s actually read Euripides. Not so with Charles Arthur when he slags off a post. You also can&#8217;t expect Charles to accept when he&#8217;s wrong, <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/shane_richmond/blog/2008/01/30/i_was_wrong_so_wrong_about_the_iphone">unlike Shane</a>. When challenged, Charles just ups the trolling ante.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s legitimate to take issue with Shane&#8217;s argument about the future of newspapers &#8211; assuming you&#8217;ve actually read the post of course &#8211; but you can&#8217;t accuse him of a lack of research or ignorance about David Simon&#8217;s work both in print and on TV, or that he misused the word &#8216;amateur&#8217;. I hope Charles will accept that and apologise. Maybe he should also consider reading things <em>before</em> slagging them off.</p>
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